aria: ([due south] smirky fraser)
valinor spider party ([personal profile] aria) wrote2009-07-01 12:00 pm

what the hell kind of name is benton

Okay, BURNING QUESTION TIME, because I'm trying to write Fraser POV things and I keep tripping over and second-guessing the damn pronouns. When in doubt, consult the internet!

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When reading a Fraser POV story, I like/don't mind him referring to himself as

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Fraser
11 (57.9%)

Benton
14 (73.7%)

Ben
3 (15.8%)

When reading a Fraser POV story, I will allow, under certain circumstances and depending on the skill of the writer, him referring to himself as

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Fraser
12 (63.2%)

Benton
11 (57.9%)

Ben
9 (47.4%)

When reading a Fraser POV story, I really don't like him referring to himself as

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Fraser
4 (28.6%)

Benton
2 (14.3%)

Ben
12 (85.7%)


Me personally, 'Fraser' is invisible to me when I read it but I kind of feel weird having the guy refer to himself by his last name inside his own head when I'm writing him. My default is 'Benton' because I assume that's the name he uses in his head, and at this point when I read it, it also comes up invisible. I actually hate 'Ben' except in exceptional circumstances ie when the narrative starts when he's a child, because plenty of old friends call him Ben without it making me twitch. ('Benny' is not even an option, although if you're writing Vecchio-POV I find it mad charming.) The problem is that this makes sense to me but I imagine that 'Benton' is not invisible to other people and possibly even annoying, and having some raw numbers might be nice.
china_shop: Thoughtful Fraser with his chin on his hands (Fraser (chin on hands))

[personal profile] china_shop 2009-07-01 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
he has a degree of ingrained formality that's become unconscious habit.

Hmm... maybe? The fact that his Canadian friends (including Victoria, who he met as an adult) call him "Ben" suggests to me that he's more formal in Chicago (because he's a guest there, representative of the Queen, etc, = China's usual theory ;-). I don't know -- when Frannie calls him "Benton", it always strikes me as a slight faux pas on her part, emphasising distance between them when she's aiming for intimacy, and when Kowalski calls him "Benton" I think he's partly teasing. :-)

(In slightly related news, I'm pondering a Huey-POV fic, and I'm not 100% sure if he's going to be Huey or Jack. I may have to give up and go with first person POV.)

I am happy to break fannish trends but I don't want people to run away.

Well, so far I'm a statistical outlier, so that's not too much of a problem. (If you wanted a wider sample, you could always link to your poll from [community profile] ds_noticeboard, btw. It might lead to some interesting discussion. :-)
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Fraser facing down danger)

[personal profile] china_shop 2009-07-02 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Reading labellmenteuse's (how do you do usernames on DW?) comment below made me think: but unless it's pure stream-of-consciousness, the POV name isn't what we call ourselves to ourselves -- it's a story the POV character's telling about him/herself to an audience. So for me, the question is really, "What would Fraser call himself if he were telling a story about himself in the third person?" And I think he'd say "Fraser" to nearly all audiences.

I'm sure the "what is 3rd person POV, anyway?" conversation's been had a billion times before. *makes note to self to poke around metafandom later on* :-)