fannish nonsense
While I was in the shower this morning, the plumbing made a sudden alarming gurgling noise. I turned off the water, listened for a puzzled moment, and then shrugged and turned the shower back on, with the vague expectation that the water was going to turn into blood and murder the fuck out of me. Obviously it did not, and I am not a horrifying ghost in a computer. The actual reason for this is that I live in the real world, but while I was in the shower I was mostly convinced on the logic that while I might be in the right age bracket to be murdered by the occult in the shower, I am not of the appropriate beauty standards or presentation of femininity. Nor am I blonde, although I bet that's just a bonus and only worth ten points.
So, um, I'm in season four! I am skipping fewer and fewer episodes as I go on, but I am also going faster and laughing more and clutching at my face a lot. I am still delighted that there is actual COLOR, and I am also delighted that the angels are terrifying and inhuman and that the poor Winchesters are bewildered because angels are supposed to be made of sparkles and light. NOPE.
I have come to the exciting revelation that Dean is my character type. I was confused for a while, because although he has the emotional inarticulation down, he is neither achingly morally upright nor an evil overlord. (SAM IS BOTH, so we've got those bases covered.) But![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
filia_belialis pointed out to me that Dean is basically Kara Thrace, minus abusive mom plus little brother to look after, and EVERYTHING MADE SENSE. Dean is totally one of my character types, he's just been disguising it by being a bro.
I suspect he also has some overlap with Ray Kowalski, except I say that and then my brain goes on a delightful tailspin. It is a tailspin where Caroline Fraser still dies when Benton is very little, which is a bit frustrating because I'm not subverting anything, but in any case Bob goes off to be a hunter instead of a Mountie, and Fraser is raised by his grandparents but eventually goes off to be a hunter as well when his dad goes missing, you know the story, came to Chicago on the trail of the demon killers of my father. The family Vecchio runs an Italian restaurant that's a road stop for hunters, but eventually Frannie gets tired of all that and runs away to become a hunter herself. Ray Kowalski and Stella also used to be hunters together, but Stella got tired of Ray running stupid risks and acting like he'd sell his soul to save her, so they split up and now Kowalski does stupid things for Fraser instead. Presumably Vecchio is Bobby in this scenario, although I'd be equally happy to have Thatcher be Bobby in this scenario, and they are equally likely to call Fraser and Kowalski idiots on a regular basis. I am not sure if there are any angels, though, no matter how hilarious it would be for Kowalski and Castiel to hang around in awkward silence.
ANYWAY. Yeah, I don't even know.
So, um, I'm in season four! I am skipping fewer and fewer episodes as I go on, but I am also going faster and laughing more and clutching at my face a lot. I am still delighted that there is actual COLOR, and I am also delighted that the angels are terrifying and inhuman and that the poor Winchesters are bewildered because angels are supposed to be made of sparkles and light. NOPE.
I have come to the exciting revelation that Dean is my character type. I was confused for a while, because although he has the emotional inarticulation down, he is neither achingly morally upright nor an evil overlord. (SAM IS BOTH, so we've got those bases covered.) But
filia_belialis pointed out to me that Dean is basically Kara Thrace, minus abusive mom plus little brother to look after, and EVERYTHING MADE SENSE. Dean is totally one of my character types, he's just been disguising it by being a bro.I suspect he also has some overlap with Ray Kowalski, except I say that and then my brain goes on a delightful tailspin. It is a tailspin where Caroline Fraser still dies when Benton is very little, which is a bit frustrating because I'm not subverting anything, but in any case Bob goes off to be a hunter instead of a Mountie, and Fraser is raised by his grandparents but eventually goes off to be a hunter as well when his dad goes missing, you know the story, came to Chicago on the trail of the demon killers of my father. The family Vecchio runs an Italian restaurant that's a road stop for hunters, but eventually Frannie gets tired of all that and runs away to become a hunter herself. Ray Kowalski and Stella also used to be hunters together, but Stella got tired of Ray running stupid risks and acting like he'd sell his soul to save her, so they split up and now Kowalski does stupid things for Fraser instead. Presumably Vecchio is Bobby in this scenario, although I'd be equally happy to have Thatcher be Bobby in this scenario, and they are equally likely to call Fraser and Kowalski idiots on a regular basis. I am not sure if there are any angels, though, no matter how hilarious it would be for Kowalski and Castiel to hang around in awkward silence.
ANYWAY. Yeah, I don't even know.
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I looooooooove the mythology the show turned to. UGH IT JUST BLENDS SO WELL
Oh, Dean
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I am seriously loving the sustained storyline they have going now, as opposed to monster-of-the-week with occasional guest appearances of the arc plot. IT IS SO GREAT.
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Also, um, I have no idea if I am busy having unpopular fandom opinions (because most of the SPN fandom stories I have heard have to do with the fandom being crazy, which is presumably not all the fandom) but being a multishipper by nature is DELIGHTFUL when watching this show. I am totally there for the Sam/Dean, but to my faint surprise I am deeply digging the Sam/Ruby, and the Dean/Anna was GODDAMN ADORABLE, and I a bit suspect that I would be down with Sam/all the demons and Dean/all the angels and EVERYTHING EVER, GIVE ME ALL THE SHIPS.
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I am pretty sure that when I am caught up I am going to ask for ALL THE FIC RECS. ALL OF THEM.
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*hides*
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Also, heh, no worries that you do not have recs yourself; I am going to appeal to the flist at large, I think. :D
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I can totally help you with fic recs if/when the time comes! Although if you get into Dean/Castiel I will only have really old recs (3 years old what) because that's when I shipped them. But I know where to look~
On a slightly different note, yay for multishipping! I'm so glad I like all the women of SPN because so many jerks are going "NO HET NO WOMAN IS GOOD ENOUGH SLASH ONLY BLAH FUCKING BLAH" and I'm all "wheee~ gimme all those het ships AND slash ships yes."
This has been an incoherent Pali comment. :D
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I would be delighted with all the recs! Probably I will make a post in a couple of days asking for ... everything, really. Sam/Dean! Dean/Cas! (Sam/Dean/Cas, because when I have conflicting ships I just smoosh them all together!) Sam/Ruby! Dean/SO MANY LADIES! I am also told there will be Sam/Gabriel bits in future, and presumably I will also want Crowley fic! &c &c.
...although I'll be honest, deep in my soul all I really want are all the stories about codependent brothers. :D
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There is a lot of Sam/Gabriel around fandom nowadays, although I do not read it because Mystery Spot scarred my brain and I am a wuss. And I have most definitely seen Wincestiel, especially during S6. :D
Erotically codependent brothers is really my favorite flavor of fic. But damn, there are so many talented writers in this fandom that I'll read anything if it's given a strong enough rec. Yay fandom!
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Most of my SPN fic is Cas/Dean, but oh, man, all the angels/all the angels and Becky/Chuck and Ruby/Sam and Ruby/everyone andandand *____* /goes to her happy place.
P.S. Fair warning: you probably do not want to read my Anna fic unless it is a crossover with Doctor Who. Also, if I ever actually get back to the internet, I may have recs for you (if, y'know, you have not read all of the fic by then).
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Ahaha, I hadn't though of Becky/Chuck! That is really charming and weird and meta. :D
I am fairly sure I will not have read all the fic by the time you have proper internet; I am for the most part holding off on fic until I have caught up on the show proper, though I am tearing through fifth season at the moment. But I would adore recs from all comers, really.
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WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE GABRIEL.
AND LUCIFER. OMG, MARK PELLEGRINO CAN TOTALLY CARRY THAT ROLE.
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Oh my god I am crazy excited for proper Gabriel! I ADORE the Trickster, but I am not actually very spoiled for any of his plotlines, so. LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
AND TO LUCIFER, WOW AM I LOOKING FORWARD TO LUCIFER. :DDD
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OMG WANT.
The angels are my favorite part of SPN, I have to say. Well, the angels and the meta episodes. And the crossovers with Good Omens.
So basically all the stuff that the classic show-loving people despise. I just...the whole "Oh, look, an attractive lady is dying horribly. Again. But Sam and Dean will come to save the day! ...Sort of. And there will be at least one moment of extreme facepalm in the dialogue," thing is enormously offputting. And though I do quite like the whole "America and its demons, figurative and literal!" aspect, I tend to think a whole lot of that ground was covered earlier, and with less misogyny, by The X-Files, American Gods, and even Due South. [/grumpypants badfan]
But the angels, yes, squee! Winged dysfunctional inhuman badasses! Just as they should be, and as they'd have to be in the Supernaturalverse. Plus I am very fond of apocalypses in fiction. I blame C.S. Lewis and Stephen King.
I suspect he also has some overlap with Ray Kowalski
I can see that.
I played Ray Kowalski at a multifannish RP for a little while, and one of the most interesting conversations he had was with Sam Winchester regarding why there was this whole secret network of vigilantes instead of anyone trying to alert the police and/or inform the populace. Sam's position was that law enforcement and/or the media would never believe them, which I suspect in his 'verse would be true. But Ray was like, "After the evil voodoo sweatshop? There's not a lot I wouldn't buy."
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And hah, yeah, that's a really good question! Why don't some hunters make an effort to inform the people in charge? THIS MIGHT BE USEFUL. Also companies that mass-produce rock salt and stuff made of iron would have a field day. XD
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Why don't some hunters make an effort to inform the people in charge? THIS MIGHT BE USEFUL.
You'd think, right? I mean, obviously it's "because the show's premise demands that they don't" but it still bugs me. In kind of the way it always bugs me in canons where there are crazy supernatural things going on behind the scenes of a real world-like setting, and non-clued-in people are getting killed a lot. (Harry Potter, Buffy and all the other vampire canons, etc.) Sometimes the canons will give a handwavey explanation like, "Oh they wouldn't believe us anyway," or "if the regular people knew there would be MASS HYSTERIA," but the more examples I see of this trope the more it feels severely condescending towards normal humankind, and ultimately kind of morally indefensible. People have a right to know if there's a serious danger they'll be murdered by dark wizards or eaten by monsters, yo! Even if it makes things harder for your little evil-fighting club.
I'm sort of...okay with it if the series seems to know that this is a messed up decision characters are making for selfish reasons (Being Human, arguably The Vampire Diaries) or there's been real effort put into trying to show that people really wouldn't believe them no matter how hard the heroes tried to get the word out (The X-Files). But otherwise it does make me a little twitchy.
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Oh also. I meant to ask - so does the Stella/RayK hunting team thing mean that the whole bank robbery thing was a scary supernatural event of some kind? Because that's kind of awesome. And hunter!Stella who left her wealthy background in order to kill monsters? BEST AU!STELLA CONCEPT EVER. ♥_♥
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but the more examples I see of this trope the more it feels severely condescending towards normal humankind, and ultimately kind of morally indefensible.
Yeeeeah. I mean, presumably it'd be a bad move to just drop all the information on the population at once, but -- if you presented evidence a bit at a time and let people know with some kind of ripple effect, that would be much better than trying to keep things hidden forever. Eh, who knows.
And YES, the bank robbery thing was totally a scary supernatural event! So presumably when Fraser and Ray first meet, Ray is hiding out in a graveyard to finally get the thing that dragged him into this life in the first place! It's a little eerie how well this works. And meanwhile, yep, hunter!Stella is off killing monsters and saving the world and generally being MOST AWESOME AU!STELLA EVER, and never mind the guys in this universe, I want the adventures of Stella and Frannie and Thatcher.