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I saw Captain America last night! I also saw hilarious previews for some bewildering version of Three Musketeers where Orlando Bloom is evil, everything is steampunk, and D'Artagnan has an American accent, and for the new Spiderman, which has a weirdly Twilight aesthetic. But never mind that, Cap was more interesting.
So, up front, I loved it. It was basically what I expected it to be, but it was full of clever things like HITLER FACEPUNCHING, and also wow, Chris Evans is kind of eerily perfect as Cap, in much the same way that RDJ is eerily perfect Tony. I may be slightly looking forward to seeing them on the same screen. Just saying.
And Steve! I wanted to hug him for being so morally upright and earnest at all times! I do have a Fraser-induced weakness for this sort of thing. On the other hand --
Aria: I think the major problem with a movie about Cap, though
Aria: is that -- he is sweet and lovely and adorable, and I am deeply looking forward to how he is going to deal with people like Thor and Tony, but ... he is not what I look for in a fictional character
Aria: couldn't you at least be a liar or have familial issues or be an alcoholic, man?
Amelia: no fucking kidding. such a cleancut dichotomy of good and evil there
Amelia: and nothing out of the ordinary tropes (besides the kid in the canal) happened the whole movie
Aria: right?
Aria: I mean, we have been massively spoiled by Loki
Aria: and I loved Hugo Weaving! I always love Hugo Weaving! but seriously, I was waiting the whole film for the mystical artifact to melt his Nazi face
Aria: so ... thanks, mystical artifact!
Amelia: BAHAHA, it did, didn't it!
Speaking of mystical artifacts, that was the Cosmic Cube, right? Wiki says so. But I don't remember if the film actually does. Never mind that, I just loved that somehow it got out of Odin's treasure vault and ended up in a secret compartment in a wall in a church in ... Norway, was it? That or I am mixing the intertitle up with an intertitle from Thor. WHATEVER. It was inside a secret compartment in a carving of Yggdrasil, and I seriously dug how Hugo Weaving said "Yggdrasil." And then when Red Skull is busy melting, we see the sky above Asgard! I have no idea what sort of sense that makes, but I loved it anyway, because this film was full of tasty shoutouts to the other ones, and it felt fairly organic.
Speaking of, HOWARD STARK.
Aria: I at least appreciate that Tony's dad was totally in love with Steve, though?
Amelia: I liked that moment both steve and stark had staring at peggy after she shot at steve
Amelia: "YES WANT"
Aria: YES
Aria: it's a shame that Steve is the most upstanding awkwardpants in the universe
Aria: 90 YEARS OLD, NEVER BEEN LAID
Amelia: awwwwww
Amelia: and then he meets tony
Aria: if Tony ever finds out that his dad had a thing for Steve
Aria: they will sit there, with INTENSE AWKWARD
Aria: and then Loki comes strolling through the Avengers mansion
Aria: "maybe incest is contagious!" he suggests brightly
Aria: and wanders out again
Aria: Thor wonders why now no one will sit next to him at dinner
Amelia: :DDDDDDD
And Peggy! Let's talk about how much I loved Peggy. I would like to be as competent and pragmatic and able-to-storm-Hydra-compounds-in-a-skirt as Peggy when I grow up. I was also totally on board with the Steve/Peggy, which is always nice; thank you for not doing the het hideously, Hollywood! And I appreciated that Steve's manpain at people who have died was all for Dr. Erskine and Bucky, and meanwhile presumably Peggy lived a full and happy life.
I did -- I totally teared up during the scene where Steve's crashing the jet and Peggy stays on the comm with him. It strongly reminded me of the opening of 2009 Star Trek, and the George-crashes-the-Kelvin scene always makes me sob, so it is deeply unsurprising that I teared up here. (CHRIS HEMSWORTH, ALL MY FEELINGS ARE YOUR FAULT.) Anyway, APPROVE.
And finally:
Amelia: SO MUCH SLO MO JUMPING
Aria: sdfsddksfsdj
Aria: I can't stop laughing
Aria: at the TRUTH OF THIS
Aria: I mean, I kind of loved it because I suddenly realized that the recent Marvel films have been really awesome at capturing the particular movements of their iconic characters in still frame and turning them into interesting fight choreography
Amelia: I mean, there was just this one sequence in particular where it was literally every 3 seconds or so, another sequence of slo mo
Amelia: then another 3 second interval
Amelia: and more slo mo
Aria: perhaps we will watch it again sometime, and play a drinking game
Aria: "drink whenever there's slow-mo"
Amelia: we will be trashed
Amelia: that will be the whole drinking game
Aria: nonsense! there must be MORE
Aria: "drink whenever Hugo Weaving is onscreen and you love him even though he is a one-note villain"
Aria: "drink every time you notice Toby Jones' bowtie and go OH GOD THE DREAM LORD WHAT"
Amelia: YES
Amelia: AUGH
Aria: "drink every time Steve fails to get trashed. DO IT FOR STEVE."
And then there was the AVENGERS TRAILER. I ... didn't actually realize how excited I was about this (or maybe how Loki-deprived, idk) until the trailer started playing, and I started shaking. Seriously, I was sitting there in the theatre VIBRATING WITH JOY and slowly chewing through my lip so I didn't start making obnoxious or obscene noises. I don't really have anything spoilery to say, I'm just really fucking excited. WHEN IS MAY 2012.
In conclusion, though, know what I would absolutely watch? A film in which Sif decides, screw this boys' club, I'm going to Midgard and being useful, and when she gets there she runs into Natasha, and they train together and teach each other tricks, and Sif can't quite get a read on Natasha but is pretty delighted regardless. Meanwhile, Pepper notices this and uses her CEO powers to get them a nice place to do all this, and coordinates the effort to intercept intelligence about where their skills might be useful. Jane can be there for SCIENCE, of, y'know, the handwavey Marvel variety, and Darcy does all their tech stuff. Also, Peggy was frozen or something, handwaaave, and now she's around to do the intel when Pepper's too busy with her million other responsibilities, and when Pepper's free, Peggy goes on missions with Sif and Natasha. They can still fight Loki, I guess; maybe in this universe Loki is Doom's evil girlfriend, and they're the big bads, although if we're going outside the Marvel Studios' properties with Doom, I move that Emma and Mystique are also around, either fighting or causing crime. THAT IS THE FILM I WANT TO SEE.
I'm still pretty excited about Avengers, though.
So, up front, I loved it. It was basically what I expected it to be, but it was full of clever things like HITLER FACEPUNCHING, and also wow, Chris Evans is kind of eerily perfect as Cap, in much the same way that RDJ is eerily perfect Tony. I may be slightly looking forward to seeing them on the same screen. Just saying.
And Steve! I wanted to hug him for being so morally upright and earnest at all times! I do have a Fraser-induced weakness for this sort of thing. On the other hand --
Aria: I think the major problem with a movie about Cap, though
Aria: is that -- he is sweet and lovely and adorable, and I am deeply looking forward to how he is going to deal with people like Thor and Tony, but ... he is not what I look for in a fictional character
Aria: couldn't you at least be a liar or have familial issues or be an alcoholic, man?
Amelia: no fucking kidding. such a cleancut dichotomy of good and evil there
Amelia: and nothing out of the ordinary tropes (besides the kid in the canal) happened the whole movie
Aria: right?
Aria: I mean, we have been massively spoiled by Loki
Aria: and I loved Hugo Weaving! I always love Hugo Weaving! but seriously, I was waiting the whole film for the mystical artifact to melt his Nazi face
Aria: so ... thanks, mystical artifact!
Amelia: BAHAHA, it did, didn't it!
Speaking of mystical artifacts, that was the Cosmic Cube, right? Wiki says so. But I don't remember if the film actually does. Never mind that, I just loved that somehow it got out of Odin's treasure vault and ended up in a secret compartment in a wall in a church in ... Norway, was it? That or I am mixing the intertitle up with an intertitle from Thor. WHATEVER. It was inside a secret compartment in a carving of Yggdrasil, and I seriously dug how Hugo Weaving said "Yggdrasil." And then when Red Skull is busy melting, we see the sky above Asgard! I have no idea what sort of sense that makes, but I loved it anyway, because this film was full of tasty shoutouts to the other ones, and it felt fairly organic.
Speaking of, HOWARD STARK.
Aria: I at least appreciate that Tony's dad was totally in love with Steve, though?
Amelia: I liked that moment both steve and stark had staring at peggy after she shot at steve
Amelia: "YES WANT"
Aria: YES
Aria: it's a shame that Steve is the most upstanding awkwardpants in the universe
Aria: 90 YEARS OLD, NEVER BEEN LAID
Amelia: awwwwww
Amelia: and then he meets tony
Aria: if Tony ever finds out that his dad had a thing for Steve
Aria: they will sit there, with INTENSE AWKWARD
Aria: and then Loki comes strolling through the Avengers mansion
Aria: "maybe incest is contagious!" he suggests brightly
Aria: and wanders out again
Aria: Thor wonders why now no one will sit next to him at dinner
Amelia: :DDDDDDD
And Peggy! Let's talk about how much I loved Peggy. I would like to be as competent and pragmatic and able-to-storm-Hydra-compounds-in-a-skirt as Peggy when I grow up. I was also totally on board with the Steve/Peggy, which is always nice; thank you for not doing the het hideously, Hollywood! And I appreciated that Steve's manpain at people who have died was all for Dr. Erskine and Bucky, and meanwhile presumably Peggy lived a full and happy life.
I did -- I totally teared up during the scene where Steve's crashing the jet and Peggy stays on the comm with him. It strongly reminded me of the opening of 2009 Star Trek, and the George-crashes-the-Kelvin scene always makes me sob, so it is deeply unsurprising that I teared up here. (CHRIS HEMSWORTH, ALL MY FEELINGS ARE YOUR FAULT.) Anyway, APPROVE.
And finally:
Amelia: SO MUCH SLO MO JUMPING
Aria: sdfsddksfsdj
Aria: I can't stop laughing
Aria: at the TRUTH OF THIS
Aria: I mean, I kind of loved it because I suddenly realized that the recent Marvel films have been really awesome at capturing the particular movements of their iconic characters in still frame and turning them into interesting fight choreography
Amelia: I mean, there was just this one sequence in particular where it was literally every 3 seconds or so, another sequence of slo mo
Amelia: then another 3 second interval
Amelia: and more slo mo
Aria: perhaps we will watch it again sometime, and play a drinking game
Aria: "drink whenever there's slow-mo"
Amelia: we will be trashed
Amelia: that will be the whole drinking game
Aria: nonsense! there must be MORE
Aria: "drink whenever Hugo Weaving is onscreen and you love him even though he is a one-note villain"
Aria: "drink every time you notice Toby Jones' bowtie and go OH GOD THE DREAM LORD WHAT"
Amelia: YES
Amelia: AUGH
Aria: "drink every time Steve fails to get trashed. DO IT FOR STEVE."
And then there was the AVENGERS TRAILER. I ... didn't actually realize how excited I was about this (or maybe how Loki-deprived, idk) until the trailer started playing, and I started shaking. Seriously, I was sitting there in the theatre VIBRATING WITH JOY and slowly chewing through my lip so I didn't start making obnoxious or obscene noises. I don't really have anything spoilery to say, I'm just really fucking excited. WHEN IS MAY 2012.
In conclusion, though, know what I would absolutely watch? A film in which Sif decides, screw this boys' club, I'm going to Midgard and being useful, and when she gets there she runs into Natasha, and they train together and teach each other tricks, and Sif can't quite get a read on Natasha but is pretty delighted regardless. Meanwhile, Pepper notices this and uses her CEO powers to get them a nice place to do all this, and coordinates the effort to intercept intelligence about where their skills might be useful. Jane can be there for SCIENCE, of, y'know, the handwavey Marvel variety, and Darcy does all their tech stuff. Also, Peggy was frozen or something, handwaaave, and now she's around to do the intel when Pepper's too busy with her million other responsibilities, and when Pepper's free, Peggy goes on missions with Sif and Natasha. They can still fight Loki, I guess; maybe in this universe Loki is Doom's evil girlfriend, and they're the big bads, although if we're going outside the Marvel Studios' properties with Doom, I move that Emma and Mystique are also around, either fighting or causing crime. THAT IS THE FILM I WANT TO SEE.
I'm still pretty excited about Avengers, though.
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Ugh, Howard Stark. You beautiful asshole. Loved him.
V. sad when Bucky died. Wanted to climb him like a tree.
That Three Musketeers movie looks awful and yet also wonderful.
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HOWARD STARK. <3 Oh how much he is Tony's dad.
I -- wish I could muster more Bucky Feelings? Like, Bucky was pretty great! I just cared about everyone else more.
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sddfgdfgd I CANNOT EVEN WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE. I just ;__; I was worried it was going to be terrable, and I was going to be sad, because Steve is one of my favorites and I ship Steve/Tony so hard.
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And, well, the film is basically what you expect it to be? But it does well what it sets out to do.
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Meanwhile, I have not seen any of the recent Marvel movies, though I have read some lovely fic. Part of me is very sad and left-out-feeling about this, and part of me is still muttering resentfully about wanting a Jessica Jones movie, or indeed any movie where the lead superhero is not a white dude in a paint-by-numbers plot. (I would say straight white dude, but I have heard things about X-Men First Class.)
Maybe Jessica could be in your Imaginary Movie of Female Awesome?
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Yeeeah, I mean, I have really adored a lot of the recent Marvel movies, but -- something besides white dudes would be nice! (And ahahaha, X-Men First Class! Very much not about straight guys! But in a way that's even more frustrating, because the movie obviously knew it had the homoerotic subtext turned up to eleven, the actors knew, everything was still there including the flawed mutants = queers analogy, and yet, still not fucking text. I ... may have Feelings about this. Angry ones.)
Jessica should absolutely be in my Imaginary Movie of Female Awesome! You have me all intrigued about her now. :D
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Oh, you MUST check out Jessica Jones. It's easy to do, as finding out about comics characters goes: you just need to read the Alias series, which is available in four trades. You may be able to find them at your library or through interlibrary loan - that's how I read the series before I gave in and bought the trades.
Seriously, it is one of my favorite comics series ever. Very fannish in subject matter and approach. And a great tonic to mainstream comics, because, like: female hero! Art where everyone, including attractive women, looks human! Canonically queer characters (and canon discussion of how that does and does not feed into the whole mutant prejudice thing)! Luke (a black major character!) and Jessica being fuckbuddies and friends and actually knowing each other rather than the traditional comics romance! Tons of meta about superheroes and the Marvelverse, and also about rape culture and societal pressures.
And I really love Jessica as a character, because while she's abrasive and angry and self-destructive and more comfortable with action than talking about her feelings, she's also a genuinely good person who, despite being a survivor of major nastiness, never went to the dark side. Which is great to read when you've encountered too many plots where victims of abuse or personal tragedy go mad and eeeeevil. (I like a woobie villain as well as anyone, but at a certain point: what are you saying about survivors, writers? or about people with mental health issues?) But Jessica, despite having better reasons to be a supervillain than many actual supervillains, just swears a lot and fights and messes up her romantic relationships and carries on trying to help people.
Uh. tl;dr: you should read it. Because it's good. :D?
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http://www.avclub.com/articles/marvels-newest-comictotv-series-aka-jessica-jones,49208/
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Except maybe: and nothing out of the ordinary tropes (besides the kid in the canal) happened the whole movie
idk idk I think that is kind of the point of Captain America? I'm not usually a sucker for moral black-and-whiteness, but when it's surrounded by the ENTIRE AVENGERS UNIVERSE, I actually really adore it. Steve is the one character who will always, always do what's right, and when you balance that with Tony and everyone else, I think it works.
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Oh Steve. And he'll be so bewildered when Tony continues sleeping with other people! I hope they will be able to work this out. DOUBTFUL.
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Ohgod, I want a story about how Tony slowly comes to realize that he doesn't want to sleep with other people, but by then it's been years, and he doesn't know how to explain that to Steve, and maybe Steve wouldn't get it anyway, and Tony thinks maybe he will propose and that would clear it right up, BUT THEN CIVIL WAR HAPPENS AND EVERYTHING IS KNIVES AND SNAILS.
. . . Whoops, Scott's handcanon all over Aria's DW.
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I saw this movie yesterday and loved it! And I love your commentary here :-)
And I would LOVE to see "Sif goes to Midgard to be useful and teams up with awesome human girls". It would TOTALLY WORK!!!
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THIS THIS THIS
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But I would still pay SO MUCH GOOD MONEY to see that film of your penultimat paragraph, oh my heavens.
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One of these days I'll get around to seeing them, though, because I do want to. Silly summer fare with fight scenes and special effects is a genre I very much like.
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And the Avengers trailer! You have totally ruined me, because as soon as I saw Loki (the first person they show!) I was out of my mind with excitement. May of 2012 now, please.
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You have totally ruined me, because as soon as I saw Loki (the first person they show!) I was out of my mind with excitement.
My work here is done. *dusts hands* :D
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But more importantly: maybe Loki is sorta-kinda a hero in the Avengers movie? His footage is just sorta stuffed in their with the heroes. After this wholesome helping of amazing and morally upright Americana, I could use a little moral ambiguity.
Also: terribly heartbroken for Steven and Peggy.