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I really am curious about the first two questions
Today it is Unimportant Question Time! Okay, these questions are important to me, because I am curious, but they are not even for very scientific statistical purposes. (Look, I have to do something with my day off.)
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Joe Dick
Billy Tallent
CHOOSE
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Ray Kowalski
18 (81.8%)
Billy Tallent
1 (4.5%)
some other CKR character whose virtues I will extol in comments
3 (13.6%)
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Billy is a different kind of passion, and also somehow reasonable, and I think it's the reasonableness that breaks everything that Joe has set up. Billy doesn't want a life as defined by Joe; he wants the other kind that real people have.
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Because he is AWESOME and kind and a total hero even though it's nowhere near his job to be. Also, how can you not look at that face and want to give him a HUUUUGE hug and feed him lots of yummy food?
Plus, this is CKR in THAT shirt. Yeah. You know what I mean here. He's making overalls look hot here.
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Also RayK is my TVBF forever. No contest whatsoever.
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GEOFFREY TENNANT MAKES ME MELT INTO A PUDDLE OMG.
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Also, when you say "Joe Dick and/or Billy Tallent, manipulative jerk and/or woobie?" My answer is a resounding yes to all of the above.
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Also, when you say "Joe Dick and/or Billy Tallent, manipulative jerk and/or woobie?" My answer is a resounding yes to all of the above.
Oh, absolutely. Hence the ticky boxes rather than radio buttons. :D
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Still - he's really super amazingly darling. He cooks! He cries! He consoles himself with ice cream! He is desperately in love with his wife even when their marriage is on the rocks!
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Now that you have described him, too, I am wondering why I have not seen this YESTERDAY. It also sounds kind of unique and awesome and he has a WIFE, to whom he is still MARRIED, I am not sure I can wrap my head around that. (And also why CKR never does characters like this anymore. Really, has he played a genuinely good person since Duck?)
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according to SciFi Wire he's going to be in 24 next year. I thought 24 was always about terrorism, guess they're branching out into serial killers?
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Maybe he'll be the terrorist, then, although I always thought 24 was pretty, you know, racist in its casting of the bad guys.
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I have no idea if he will be the terrorist, but I am pretty sure he will die. He usually does that too.
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See, there's a (fairly terrible, imho) fic out there in which Zoe abruptly leaves Johnny and then Johnny is sad and eats ice cream and then Billy Tallent comes to town and they fall in love and live together and nobody, including them, seems to find this odd, and it made steam come out of my ears.
And my main plausibility objection, see, was that Johnny has a twin sister, and I don't think a man with a twin could hook up with someone who looks exactly like him without it being, in some way, about his twin. So it went something like this: a few years after Siggy disappeared, she wrote to Johnny - sent him a flyer - and arranged to meet him at a Hard Core Logo show near where he was playing minor league hockey. And it's Siggy and Johnny, so Johnny goes, of course, and meets her, and is so happy to see her, so very very happy, and then the show starts and the guitarist--it's a small club, it's pretty hard to miss, and Siggy's eyes are locked on the guy all night, and Johnny doesn't even quite know what to make of that, of the way she's looking at the guy and the way she looked at him, seeing him for the first time in years.
And then they go backstage and down the rabbit hole--the lead singer laughs and grabs Siggy and kisses her full on the mouth (and Johnny feels something weirdly like relief, when he should probably be wanting to punch the guy) but then he sees Johnny, and his eyes go wide, and he starts laughing and yelling for Billy--and then the guitarist shows up and stares at him and stares, and tells Siggy she's even more twisted than he thought she was, which--which--
So while Johnny is too dazed to start objecting, Siggy drags him and Billy out to their car, and they drink more and maybe smoke, and drive around, and end up in a cheap motel room, and--Johnny just watches, at first, which is weird enough, until Siggy drags him into it and starts stage-managing him and Billy--
And then Johnny leaves. Leaves while she and Billy are still passed out, gets the hell away, and doesn't visit Siggy, not ever again, or go see that band, or listen to their music. He has one seriously terrified moment of frantic math when he finds out Siggy's pregnant, but--no. And that's it.
Until more than a decade later, when he finds Siggy's son in tears, because he read in the paper that Joe Dick is dead. Johnny holds down his own reaction and talks to Erik about it, and Erik explains that his mom used to take him to their shows sometimes--"She said you and her went and saw them, once. She always used to kind of--she was always looking around, when we went to see them, to see who else was in the crowd."--and Joe had been kind to him. What Erik remembers most, apparently, is the time he was about four years old, and had to pee after a show, and his mom didn't want to send him into the Mens' alone, so Joe had taken him. Held him up, first to the urinal and then to the sink to wash his hands.
And now Erik wants to go and see his grave.
So Johnny winds up taking him all the damn way to ... Edmonton? Wherever it was Joe wound up buried. They go to the cemetery and Johnny feels itchy as hell about the whole thing, and it almost winds up not being a surprise at all, when there's a knock on the door of the motel room and Billy's on the other side. Johnny leaves Erik--who seems the hell of a lot more okay than Johnny is--and goes out to the parking lot to talk to Billy, and they have this awkward conversation--Yeah, that's Siggy's kid, no, not yours--Billy has a kid now, too, well, depending on what the judge says, anyway--and there's this desperate and desperately awkward kiss, before Johnny pushes away again and stands up and--Siggy's gone, and neither of them is what the other is looking for, or ever was. Johnny goes back to the motel room to call Zoe and watch TV with Erik, and leaves Billy smoking in the parking lot.
...the one about Johnny and Chris Cutter was a lot more upbeat, as I recall. *g*
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Of course now I want to hear the one about Johnny and Chris Cutter too. :D?
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So it's like a year after MLAAD ends, and Zoe and Johnny's marriage falls apart along certain existing fault lines without anyone really being the bad guy, and Zoe leaves and it's Erik and Johnny. So this is during Chris's period of roaming earth (like Cain from Kung Fu) and he meets this guy in a bar in Mexico who's looking for anybody who can transport a kind of awkward birthday present to his kid in Manitoba, and Chris figures, what the hell, he could do with a drive. I seem to recall that the birthday present was, like, a stuffed and mounted swordfish or something. Also, Max is paying in, ahem, trade goods.
So Chris drives to Gimli and presents Erik with his birthday present and Johnny is ... amused, and offers Chris the caboose to crash in. And then Chris's car breaks down and/or he gets a little bit paranoid about continuing to transport the trade goods, so he winds up giving Lennox a call for help getting rid of them--but in the meantime, Johnny stops by the caboose at night after Erik has gone to sleep and they wind up, you know, getting high. And naked. And then there is a line in the outline that says: Eric! Good morning! Your custodial uncle totally did NOT get high and fuck a strange man last night! Happy birthday!
So Chris is waiting on help to arrive and Johnny is maybe freaking out a little, and they are both kind of sitting on their hands while Lou fixes Chris's car, and, um, possibly having sex kind of frantically whenever Erik's not around. And Lennox shows up and fixes things with Chris, and Chris is finally able to pay for the repairs to his car, and yet does not leave Gimli, because he's getting sort of ... comfy.
And meanwhile - and I spent an inordinate amount of time thinking about this part - Lennox goes back to Long Bay and tips Amy Foley - a not-yet-recovering divorced alcoholic with a toddler, at that point - that the love of her life is shacking up with a (male!) ex-NHL star in Manitoba. Which has a few immediately sorta disastrous results and involves Lennox quietly taking young Brandon over to his grandma and grandpa's house to be looked after for a little while. And then, because he doesn't know what the hell else to do about the situation, he goes back to Amy's and commiserates because, fuck, if Chris was going to shack up with a guy it was--well, it wasn't ever supposed to be Slip Johansson of the Whalers, for fuck's sake.
(By the time Chris does make a brief return visit to Long Bay to try to sort out a few things, he is getting greeted by everyone he meets with "So, you're fucking/sleeping with/dating/seeing Slip Johansson" and yet for some reason does not kill Lennox.)
Anyway, and then Chris and Johnny (and possibly Lennox and Amy, in their own way) live happily ever after. And Chris teaches Eric to curl and gets a whole local league going, as an upstart alternative to hockey. Eric loves curling. And Johnny likes that Eric's happy, so it all works out, although he and Chris continue to give each other a lot of good-natured shit about their chosen winter sports. Forever and ever amen.
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I really do write stuff that all works out fuzzy and happy sometimes, I swear.
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(Or Craig. Then one needn't talk about anything!)
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(You know, I'm starting to wonder what Craig used to do back before the world was ending and he decided to Have Sex With Everyone. I mean, really, what did he do? Besides collect old cars, which mostly just makes me assume he is Ray.)
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But as soon as I've watched all of it (which, considering how fast I go through stuff, should be a couple of weeks) I will move on to C6D stuff!
(Confession: it took me a while to figure out what C6D stood for. *ashamed*)
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And then you can move onto other C6D stuff, yes! And definitely start with S&A and HCL. In HCL he's even on screen for, I dunno, the majority of the movie, which is kind of awesome.
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you sound kind of creepily like I did BECAUSE IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT, ARIA.
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And oh god, my friends thought I was nuts because during the opening I would always make little noises of glee during the opening, when like THREE LEOBENS go across the screen evilly rubbing their beautiful, beautiful hands. XD