aria: ([smallville] plotting lex)
valinor spider party ([personal profile] aria) wrote2010-10-02 03:52 pm

this post the result of too many concurrent fandoms

One of the things I am enjoying about Smallville is getting to play the "spot how other late '90s/early '00s shows also did a variation on this plot" game, although usually 'other shows' really means 'Buffy.' (Imagine my amused eye-rolling when Lana accidentally joins a vampire sorority presided over by Buffy Saunders, and James-Marsters-the-professor takes a moment to seriously declare, "Clark, there's no such thing as vampires.") When it's not taking cheap shots, though, Smallville does delightful things like the bodyswap episode (Lionel Luthor clearly beats out both Faith and Callisto-from-Xena in the People You Don't Want Possessing Your Body Awards) or the one-person-split-into-two-bodies episode (Dorky Xander vs. Competent Xander < Idealist Lex vs. Evil Lex. Sorry, Xander).

It probably sounds like my point is that I am a big fan of the Luthors (which is true! I am also a fan of the Blacks, and the Horsemen, and I'm sure I'd be a big fan of the Master's family if we'd ever met them, &c) but my actual point is that I started thinking about how cool personality-aspects-in-different-bodies episodes are. And how the aspects that get split are different depending on the character! For instance, in Buffy the split was meant to hit Buffy herself, to turn her into Ordinary Buffy and Super-Slayer, but when it got Xander, since he didn't have superpowers, it split him down a competence line. I'm not sure it would have worked the anticipated way on Buffy either, though! I think it would have more likely turned her into Insecure Lovesick Teenager Buffy and Competent Self-Sacrificing Leadership Buffy, and they would have both still had Slayer powers. On the other hand, with Willow we'd probably get Sweet Nerdy Willow and Dark Willow, so don't point personality-splitting radiation at just anyone, okay.

The problem is that once I start, I want to point personality-splitting radiation at everyone just to see what happens. Earnest, idealist Delenn vs. kill-you-mercilessly Delenn! Do-anything-for-a-story Chloe Sullivan vs. do-anything-for-her-friends Chloe! Awkward paternalistic librarian Giles vs. Ripper! Patient, dispensing-backhand-wisdom Methos vs. shanking-you-with-his-second-sword Methos! I keep thinking of more, but I will stop now. (If anyone wants to continue in comments, though, man, I could do this for hours.)

I wonder if Clark would turn into Ordinary Farm Boy Clark and Superman. Somehow, I think this works about as well as Ordinary Buffy and Super-Slayer. It is much more likely that he would turn into saves-his-friends-at-all-costs while smiling like a total sweetie Clark vs. some lying asshat. It's even worse than Merlin! I want to call out Gaius and Jonathan Kent and punch them for impressing on their wards the importance of secrecy unto sheer stupidity. God, Morgana and Lex should form a fucking support group.

[personal profile] feverbeats 2010-10-02 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, I didn't know that! It's especially surprising, given that she was originally intended to be Lois. But OH MY GOD, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A BLACK LOIS? I mean, we had a black Pete! Of course, we had a black Pete who was reduced to comic relief and then left the show, but still. :\

OH GOD YES I SAW IT AGES AGO AND FORGOT. It's pretty much the truest video ever.

I--okay. Damn it, Aria.

Lex's dad is in Gotham doing business, and Lex has no idea why he's been allowed to tag along. He's even been forced into a nice suit--straps and chains hidden under his, in case he sees a club he needs to hit up--and brought to a fancy party at some asshole's house.

The house, who looks only a few years older than Lex, is the one Lex's dad is doing business with. He shoots Lex a sleazy fake smile, like can see right through Lex's suit.

Lex would be okay with that.

He ends up in a window seat while the host--Wayne, Bruce Wayne, Lex things--is entertaining (but not nearly as entertaining as he thinks he is). He can hear sirens outside pretty constantly, so all the things his fathers says about Gotham are probably true.

"Hey. Alexander, right?"

Lex looks up. He fucking hates his name. "Wayne, right?" he mimics, letting his lip curl.

But Bruce Wayne is already looking away from Lex, past him, though the window at the night sky. He frowns.

[personal profile] feverbeats 2010-10-02 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I have definitely heard this! I believe it's the case, yes.

FUCKING ALWAYS. There's this amazing fanvid to Nine Inch Nails' "Something I Can Never Have" about them, and I can't fucking find it, but I have it on my hard drive.

Aaaaargh now I want to actually write this fic. I think Lex gets kidnapped by the Joker or someone and Bruce has to save him.

[personal profile] feverbeats 2010-10-02 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I knooooooow. :(

Nghhhhh why is Lex so good at being in pain/danger?

[personal profile] feverbeats 2010-10-02 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they are vaguely aware of that portion of the audience and they like to facepunch them. :( :(

[personal profile] feverbeats 2010-10-02 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, bb. :( You did not get to enjoy the times during which s4 onward were airing, when people basically felt like the producers were slappling Clex fans in the face every episode. And I'm not sure I believe that. I do think it's a show in which the producers were singularly unaware of a certain portion of their fanbase.

[personal profile] feverbeats 2010-10-03 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
FOR EXAMPLE, SPN. JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE. Ughhhh fuck I hate SPN so much.

I REMEMBER THAT! Ohhhh, I love "Red" so much.

[personal profile] feverbeats 2010-10-03 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
True story: Dean has become such an abhorrent character than I haven't made it through the most recent season. Well, there is one way I think I can manage, and that is by pretending that Dean is ftm and overcompensating by being a raging sexist asshole. I mean, I was pretending that anyway, but it'll certainly be useful now.

LOL I MOSTLY HATE TWOP. Bunch of pretentious fuckheads, mostly. But that excerpt is only true.
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[personal profile] gehayi 2010-10-03 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Deanna Winchester. Oh, yeah. And you know, Deanna being a raging sexist asshole would make SENSE, because I think John would have very very strict notions about what was male behavior and what was not, so Deanna would be constantly trying to act ultra-macho to send the message to John that "Yeah, hello Dad, I am not your tomboy daughter, I am your son no matter what biology says," and even though John is now dead, by now being a raging sexist jerk has become a habit for Deanna-called-Dean.

(I don't even LIKE SPN and I know this makes sense.)

[personal profile] feverbeats 2010-10-03 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
GOD, YES, EXACTLY. Um, there's that one bit in s4 when someone--I think Alastair--says, "Not quite the man your father wanted you to be," and I was just like, "OH, GOD, DEAN." Because clearly I have made myself believe this awesome fanon.
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[personal profile] innocentsmith 2010-10-03 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Threadjacking to say: OMG, have you seen that one comic where the Joker does kidnap Lex? The one that inspired this astolat fic?

"Wow. A half-naked President being tortured by the Joker. One usually has to surf the web for images like this." - one of the superheroes trying to figure out if they should intervene or not.

If you haven't, basically: Joker wants info from Lex, so he has killed Lex's secret servicemen, tied Lex up, and beat the tar out of him while cooing crazily. Lex is unimpressed. Finally, when he's half-dead of torture, we get this.

And that is why Lex pwns.
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[personal profile] innocentsmith 2010-10-03 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
It is TOTALLY real. XD

I just wish the Scans_Daily post that had all the Joker vs. Lex scenes from that issue were still up. It was epic. Lex starts off very cool and professional and contemptuous, and then Joker trips his daddy issues and Lex BLOWS UP at him and starts yelling insults. It's all AMAZINGLY catty and great. (As is that fic, which I totally recommend.)
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[personal profile] innocentsmith 2010-10-03 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh hey. Found a bit more: fifth down in this post. This is right after the daddy-issue tripping.
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[personal profile] innocentsmith 2010-10-03 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
The Lex Luthor tag there is pretty evenly divided between "OMG, Lex is the BEST!" and "OMG, Lex is the WORST!" I think this, however, may be the most adorable Lex ever: I never run out of thoughts!